[SL-devel] Xorg-server 1.5

[Cloud Strife]

I use ATI proprietary drivers and still highly suggest this upgrade.  Although, I believe there should be a warning,
such as when you have to agree to a license when upgrading via entropy.  A big NOTICE would be nice to those
not wishing to upgrade just yet.  I also feel there needs to be a setting in spritz/equo/entropy that is labeled "Never Downgrade"
So people partially using portage with an upgraded version of the ATI drivers for example.. ahem. Or any other app for example,
doesn't have to worry about spritz/equo/entropy downgrading their version to a less featured/stable/etc. version.

In my earlier email, I noticed a problem with the current Xorg.  We need to be on top of stuff as much as possible.
The more we are on top of things the easier it is to upgrade without worries. Its like cleaning up as you go. If you
clean a kitchen while you cook, there's less junk to clean after the work is done.

just my 2 cents worth,
Darksurf



----- Original Message ----
From: Mitch Harder (aka DontPanic) <mmharder at gmail.com>
To: Sabayon Linux general development mailing list <devel at mailman.sabayonlinux.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:21:21 AM
Subject: [SL-devel] Xorg-server 1.5

Xorg-server-1.5, the centerpiece of the imminent X.org 7.4 release,
has been out now for nearly a week.

This release creates a problem in that ati proprietary drivers and
nvidia legacy proprietary drivers have not released drivers compatible
with xorg-server 1.5 (however, newer nvidia cards are supported).

So what's in xorg-server-1.5 that is so important?  Well despite my
previous e-mails touting the importance of xorg-server-1.5, it seems
the package was released without most of the features that I was
eagerly anticipating (dri2 has been pushed back to >=1.6), or the
features have already found their way into xorg-server-1.4.2 (such as
evdev).

I ran across an informative article on Phoronix that goes over the
history of xorg-server 1.5, and what features made it and what
features didn't.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xorg_74_released&num=1

Despite my disappointment in the feature set, xorg-server-1.5 does
seem to be fully and robustly functional, and most of the problems I'm
seeing online are related to the ati and nvidia-legacy proprietary
drivers.  I'm also seeing several distros eagerly adopting xorg-server
1.5 (RedHat would like to have you think they had xorg-server-1.5
along with a buggy DRI2 in Fedora-9 back in March).

So, while xorg-server-1.5 appears to be a competent release, I think
it would still make sense to provide some kind of support for
xorg-server-1.4.2 (whether it be through the main entropy, or a
Wiki-HowTo, or a separate user entropy repository).  I keep running
across posts from disaffected Fedora-9 users who have been left on
their own to scrap together a "Plan B" for their legacy nvidia cards
or their ati cards (Fedora 9 does not have a fall-back to
xorg-server-1.4.x unless you manually drop back to Fedora 8 for those
packages).  I think we can learn from Fedora's mistakes.

For myself, I'm more familiar with nVidia cards, so I would love to
hear some feedback, especially from the ATI people.
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